GPA4.0、Top15大学CS专业,面试实习屡屡被拒...小哥快哭了(心疼)~

2016年10月26日 美国留学中心




不开玩笑,小哥真的要哭了...


这是来自Quora上的一则提问,小哥是这样说的:

I have a 4.0 at a Top 15 university in CS. I applied to all these internships but got flat out rejected by so many already. I do indeed put in a lot of effort into getting good grades, as i thought it would please the companies, but at the expense of more practical experience like a lot of side projects. Do companies just not care about GPA above a certain point, say 3.5 ? Should I quit pursuing a perfect GPA and concentrate more on side projects ? ”
我有4.0的成绩,就读Top15大学CS专业,我申请了几乎所有的实习但统统被拒。为了得到好成绩我确实投入了巨大的努力,牺牲了很多实践机会,我以为这能够取悦公司。所以企业其实不在乎多高的GPA,只要有3.5就行?还是说我应该停止追求高分,而侧重做项目?

感受到小哥的满腹委屈了吗?

还没完:

“I thought that you go to school to get good jobs, and that if you do great at great schools then you should get a chance at atleast some good internships, but if companies like Bloomberg just care about how talented I am or how many apps I have made, then what is the point of doing well in college ? If I put in the same amount of time as I put in school into side projects, then I would do great right ? I mean, Ill always have the same intelligence, and that i can't change, so doing well in school doesnt really  matter to companies right ??”
我认为去上大学是为了得到一份好工作,如果你在一个好的大学得到好成绩,那你至少应该有机会获得好的实习,但如果像彭博公司这样只关心我设计了多少app,那我上大学的意义何在?...所以在学校表现好对企业来说真的不重要吗?

感觉这段小哥已经在啜泣了...

成绩?技能?大学?工作?世纪难题已经摆在眼前了,怎么办呢?

看看前人是怎么说的吧~
Igor Markov
EECS Prof at Michigan,currently at Google
从情达理式建议:

“Think about it - working for a company does not usually require attending lectures every week and passing carefully-prepared exams with known answers. Exams are just a way to evaluate what you learned, they don't give a full picture of your knowledge, and they are different from job interviews.
想象吧,为公司工作不需要你每周参加讲座,通过精心准备的考试填上已知的答案,考试只是一种评估你学到知识的方法,并不能全面描述你的知识,它与工作面试是不同的。


“Most students attend school to learn, develop various skills, gain a broader perspective, and enrich their talents. It is common to develop interests beyond required coursework (but based on what they learned), and this often helps finding a job. Internships can be very valuable - they give experience.”
很多来自好的大学有高GPA成绩的学生都会被邀请面试,也许你的简历和其他文件中有一些问题,这方面你需要看细节。
除此之外最好的选择是和学校的求职顾问谈谈,给他们看你发给公司的材料并要求直接反馈,还有一些公司是提供类似服务的。比如CareerCup

三合一网站:咨询(面试和技术招聘)+图书(破解编码面试、破解PM面试、破解技术职业)+准备

Dana H.Shultz
Lawyer for startups in or coming to the U.S

另辟蹊径式建议:Could your problem be a lack of people skills?
你的问题有可能是缺乏与人沟通的技能?


“When I was your age, I was (as I see things now) appalingly unaware of and insensitive to the feelings of others and their views of the world. (Not uncommon for CS and other STEM majors.)
For many years, I was oblivious to this issue. A marketing consultant told me, "People buy on emotion and justify with logic." It took me a long time to believe, then appreciate, the truth of that statement.”
当我在你的年龄,对于人的感觉和他们对世界的看法并不敏感(这对CS和其他STEM专业的人来说并不罕见)
多年来我并没有意识到这个问题,知道一个营销顾问告诉我:“人们用情感购买,用逻辑证明,我用了很长时间去相信、认同这个真相。”

所以,可能是你的简历和人际关系让人们离开的...

搞技术的不善交际,面试时候就只能一秒“现行”了

Tracy Narvaez-Jensen
software engineer with degrees in CS、psychology and education
理智分析式建议:面试后被拒和被剥夺面试机会是完全不同的两种情况。

鉴于现在获得简历的方式主要是通过简历,如果你投递了却没被邀请面试那很可能是你在职业描述的时候没有准确反映你的技能或者营销失败,对此我建议你阅读Cracking the Coding Interview这本书。


至于现在应该怎么做,GPA当然是重要的,尤其是对申请研究生,但更重要的是显示你对自己的专业感兴趣,所以适当分散经验到项目也是必要的。

Joshua Engel
没有详细介绍
振聋发聩式点醒:It’s *because* you got a 4.0!

“After that, grades are just trivia. Nobody in the real world cares. You didn't tell me *anything* else about yourself in the question details. You just threw a bunch of meaningless numbers out.”
成绩只是琐事,没有人关心现实世界,你没有在问题细节中告诉我任何关于你自己的东西,你只是丢了一堆无意义的数字。


A 4.0 might get a momentary "huh" that would induce a recruiter to pay slightly more attention to your resume and cover letter. Your resume probably sucks, since you just got out of college and don't have any work experience, but your cover letter does the real job. What excites you about programming? What are you interested in? What makes you interested in this company? Did you even bother researching this company? Do you even know why you want to work for them, or are they just a meal ticket? Do you care about them? Why should they care about you?”
4.0会诱使招聘者更多地关注你的简历和求职信,事实上你的简历可能很糟糕,因为你刚刚离开大学没有任何工作经验。但你需要的是一份真正的工作。是什么激发了你的编程?你对什么感兴趣?什么让你对这家公司感兴趣?你知道为什么要为他们工作,或者他们只是一张餐票?你关心他们吗?他们又为什么要关心你?


If the grade is the most interesting thing in your application, then it's not a very interesting application. It's not really your fault that college didn't teach you anything that actually matters; colleges never do, and college students are generally too immature and self-involved to learn it if they did teach it. The real lesson that they should be trying to teach is that the grade is a pointless bit of accounting. What you need is genuine enthusaism for the subject, and the ability to convey that you're good for something other than the kind of scut-work that goes into getting grades. ”
如果成绩是你简历中最有趣的东西,那它就不是一个有趣的简历,这不是你的错,大学没有教你什么事情是真正重要的...你需要的是对这个工作真正的热情,以及除了成绩之外真正的能力。


88条回复,各家之言皆有理,小哥要是看完绝对获益匪浅,如果你有此困惑,不妨看看:https://www.quora.com/I-have-4-0-GPA-but-why-do-I-not-even-get-an-interview

主页菌在这里也可以分享一点面试经验:务必要表现出你对这份工作的渴望,面试的人一定能感受到你的投入,至于能力这还需要真的开始工作才能展现。

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